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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:56:45 -
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It will be an experiment in what it would be like to not have gates.
Meaning no bubble camps galore.
I'm not planning on using it though, as epic as the idea seems, but mainly because my time to play is considerably lacking these days.
(thanks CCP for the long skill que)
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2014.11.11 20:07:50 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Ranger 1 wrote: Fair enough, but I'm surprised the major alliances are taking a keen interest in having a base of operations that has very easy static connections to empire, as well as a steady stream of wormholes to everywhere... especially considering the new limitations in play that limit fleet movement via Titan bridge.
It would be entirely too easy for an alliance to get their assets camped into such a place. There's a reason that NPC null is either used only for deployments, or as a last resort when all sov is lost. Granted, the recent removal of hobojamming makes this only slightly more difficult, it's still far from impossible. Anyone with enemies could very quickly find themselves hellcamped into that station. It makes far more sense to just use your own sov space, and take full advantage of wormholes within your regions of control. Fair points, although a few other factors may come into play. We don't know how many stations will be in Thera. Considering the sheer size of the system there could be a LOT. We don't know what the system mechanics will be like, frankly at this point we don't even know if bubbles will work there. All we know is that CCP doesn't seem to think that moving ships and materials in and out of system will be difficult (or at least not impossible), and that station camping doesn't appear to worry them overly much either... which might indicate that these "unique" and unannounced system mechanics (or environmental peculiarities if you prefer) will make such activities much more difficult. If trade and manufacturing can flourish there, one would think that a military presence could as well. We really won't know a lot until we get facts on: Where the static wormholes end up. How many statics there are. How many wandering wormholes show up, and how often. How big the system is How many NPC stations are there, and how far apart. What are the new and unique environmental factors in play.
I would like to add to your list:
How much mass the wormholes would handle (would they be in accord with where they link or would these be "special cases"?)
I still think this is more of an experiment and I gotta say I like it when CCP experiments. That's a sign they might have clubbed their marketing department like baby seals and carted them off (a good thing).
How players use these new systems and the overall result might even drive future changes to the game so there lies another reason to have interest in this.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2014.11.12 07:47:39 -
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Burl en Daire wrote:Fozzie said on the o7 show that it was by far the largest system and that 9-2 system is like 204AU so I would guess it is up there around 500AU. There is a really good chance that bubbles/interdictors won't work because of some new something from the star. It also wouldn't surprise me if they added some type of effect that dampens sensors to near uselessness. They want people in the system so creating a WH that is basically a death trap doesn't make much sense. It may be the "Mos Eisley" of New Eden but it can't be so dangerous that no one enters. There will be some type of mechanic used to prevent or at least curtail combat. I am interested to see how they are going to accomplish it, I won't live there but I would enjoy jumping in every once in a while just for the fun of it.
I also think that he said there will be no WHs to other WHs only to K space. That will help out some because pilots will only be able to engage you on one side of the hole, if it is a HS. Scanning is going to be a *****, trying to scan down the entire system is going to take a while without deep space probes.
500 AU...
are they bringing back the deep space probes?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:43:28 -
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Charlie Firpol wrote:There will be 1000 unsuccessful tries to get ships and modules in, people will be getting angry how CCP could even think this is a good idea. It will be a gankers paradise!
Then there will be very few people actually able to get ships and modules in, and they will sell them. For a ton of ISK. They might get filthy rich. And they will say it was the best idea ever. Its a good traders paradise!
Granted that when you can mine in almost total peace with Concord you see lots of min-maxing and isboxing galore too.
And if you are given a gankers paradise, an ability to create choke points and no space police, we'll see the SAME exact min-maxing obsession not with ISK but with kills.
But your assertion might not be correct. If it's a gankers paradise and only a few manage to get modules in for sale, who will buy them?
There won't be mining because that would last 30 seconds. But it's not known what the science and industry availability would be (knowledge check?)
If it is set up to be a gankers paradise and it's just "EC-P8R in wormhole" I would not be surprised to see a large alliance take control and make it possible to use it - for a protection fee of course. Or something like that. Who knows.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2014.11.13 23:25:55 -
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LOL
Here is what we call a "disconnect" in perception:
Quote:Anchored warp disruption bubbles will not be usable within Thera, although interdictor and heavy interdictor bubbles work normally.
Then:
Quote:As always, we know that our players will take EVEGÇÖs new features in creative directions that we at CCP can never fully foresee...
Uh.... Hello?
I'll take gankfest for 400.
I'm more interested in the "events" they speak of. I hope they are un-planned unscheduled live events like what was done for the Incursions. If it's more " OK here is what's going to happen at this exact time so everybody and their brother get ready!" then that too will be meh.
Skill que at 138 days...
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2014.11.16 09:08:01 -
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A part of me hopes that Thera will be like Tortuga from POTC.
But my experience with the min-max sperglords tells me that it'll be get pulled out of warp then die and that's that.
It might be assumed that I'm referring to killmail min maxers, but I'm not. I refer to the ones already in place, doing with they do best that we all have written and read about.
And this means that nobody will be hunting the hunters because you don't maximize your ISK doing that.
Meaning that "Tortuga becomes the place the Black Pearl went to get a crew after being raised from the deep "and was sunk in 24 hours end of story (or, no story at all for that matter and no game at all for that other matter where this analogy is made).
Get rid of all kinds of bubbles and we'll have a cauldron of PVP. Keep the dictor bubbles and we'll have a WTFOMGBBQPWMWellThatSuckedBackToIncursionsMeh,
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2014.11.17 20:11:31 -
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Snagletooth Johnson wrote:Bwhahahah. A merchant going to Thera will be like driving a beer truck through Detroit...at night...with the doors open...with Ice Cream truck music playing...while stuck in second gear...
...I could go on, but I think you all get the point.
:-D I LOLed!
I would also add: with Bud Girls hanging off the back.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2015.02.24 23:11:54 -
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So how are things going in dictor-bubble death camp land? I found a hole to Thera once but I didn't feel like changing over to a rookie ship to feed to the sharks.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2015.02.25 17:58:36 -
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Harrison Tato wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Allowing bubbles in Thera was a mistake.
Hell, imo, bubbles in general are a mistake. Risk>>>>>Reward Can you imagine if the Empire had used bubbles agains the Millenium Falcon? Very short movie.
Gravity wells.
It's not the bubbles, it's the gates. Nobody is complaining about their use in the battlefield. It's the bubbles all over and around the gates. If the Falcon had to go through gates and plus the gravity wells and plus numerous pilots killing everything that moved for no reason (or maybe for backstory, some esoteric religion called "MuhStats") , there would not have even been a movie. Heck all systems not under constant patrol by Star Destroyers would be empty save for a few pilots each system who would immediately dock up if they saw another pilot they didn't know. There would be no story at all. Just a lot of meh in space.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2015.03.04 06:04:18 -
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What did I say?
We have old sayings in Eve. We need a new one:
If it can be death camped, it will be.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2015.03.05 05:08:49 -
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Hippinse wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
The recorded history of the human race begs to differ.
Differ on what? That being successful at anything only requires intelligence and the will to do what you want? I think you need to actually read about history outside of Blizzard's website... I think the point being made was that you don't see Wal-mart or Target opening stores in Somalia, for example.
Hence the "Jita without Concord" thing was pure sarcasm.
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